Chomsky Dismisses 911 Conspiracy Theories As ‘Dubious’
The following is an exchange between a ZNet Sustainer and Noam Chomsky, which took place in the Sustainer Web Board where Noam hosts a forum…
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Chomsky Dismisses 911 Conspiracy Theories As ‘Dubious’
The following is an exchange between a ZNet Sustainer and Noam Chomsky, which took place in the Sustainer Web Board where Noam hosts a forum…
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Here’s a typical ‘vapournews’ news-story. You start by claiming that a video shows Osama Bin laden being compromised seen together with the hijackers of 9/11. But where’s the actual video now? It may have been aired on Al-Jazeera TV, but why is it not available now on the internet. Also, when you read more of the text from the Al-Jazeera article you get the strong impression, that there really isn’t any grounds for the claims that this video shows anything we haven’t seen before.
Nevertheless Danish – and I presume newspapers from many other countries – print the story, and promulgate the unsubstantiated idea that this video actually proves anything.
Just like they did with the recent Pentagon ‘videoproofs’.
Aljazeera.Net – Al-Qaeda video takes credit for 9/11
A screenshot from the professionally-produced tape
Friday 08 September 2006, 14:22 Makka Time, 11:22 GMT
A new videotape aired on Aljazeera television has shown Osama bin Laden and senior al-Qaeda members meeting some of the men who carried out the attacks against the US on September 11, 2001.
The 90-minute video apparently shows bin Laden, the leader of al-Qaeda, taking part in the planning and preparation of the attacks that killed nearly 3,000 people.
Is DU dangerous or is it not?
The case is open:
At 16:10 -0700 03/09/06, Bob Dunbar wrote:
False Allegations Regarding Depleted Uranium
Rumors of adverse health effects proved inaccurate
There is a great deal of misinformation and unwarranted fears about depleted uranium (DU), which U.S. armed forces use in several types of ammunition to take advantage of its unsurpassed ability to penetrate armored vehicles.
Depleted uranium is a derivative of natural uranium, a very common element in our environment. Many people don’t realize that our environment contains small amounts of natural uranium, which we breathe, eat, and drink every day.
U-235 and U-234 are the highly radioactive isotopes in natural uranium, extracted to make nuclear fuel or enriched weapons-grade uranium. Depleted uranium is what is left over after much of these highly radioactive isotopes have been removed. Depleted uranium is actually 40% less radioactive than the natural uranium in the environment around us, and much less radioactive than fuel-grade or weapons-grade uranium. Unfortunately, most people confuse depleted uranium with these dangerous substances.The Health Effects of Depleted Uranium (more…)
NIST answers questions about their report.
NIST’s Investigation of the Sept. 11 World Trade Center Disaster – Frequently Asked Questions
National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) Federal Building and Fire Safety Investigation of the World Trade Center DisasterAnswers to Frequently Asked Questions
(NIST NCSTAR throughout this document refers to one of the 43 volumes that comprise NIST’s final report on the WTC Towers issued in October 2005. All sections of the report listed in this document are available at http://wtc.nist.gov.)
Well crafted 3D visualisation video that supports the idea that flight 77 hit Pentagon.
Og så har nogen bedrevet en rigtig flot hvidvask af 9/11 på dansk wikipedia.
Terrorangrebet den 11. september 2001 – Wikipedia
Danmarks Radio har en webside om 9/11!
Den er fuldstændig renset for antydning af at der eksisterer kontrovers om den officielle forklaring.
Den vestlige verdens symbol
Når tv-billederne af den ufattelige ødelæggelse af World Trade Center har haft så stor effekt på mennesker verden over, så skyldes det ikke kun de meningsløse tab af liv.De to 417 meter og 415 meter høje tårne repræsenterede den vestlige verdens dominans og var som sådan enten et godt eller dårligt symbol – afhængig af hvilken del af verden man kom fra.
A New York Times article on the Chicago conference.
It does carry some snide remarks.
500 Conspiracy Buffs Meet to Seek the Truth of 9/11
By ALAN FEUER
Published: June 5, 2006CHICAGO, June 4 — In the ballroom foyer of the Embassy Suites Hotel, the two-day International Education and Strategy Conference for 9/11 Truth was off to a rollicking start.
In Salon Four, there was a presentation under way on the attack in Oklahoma City, while in the room next door, the splintered factions of the movement were asked — for sake of unity — to seek a common goal.
In the foyer, there were stick-pins for sale (”More gin, less Rummy”), and in the lecture halls discussions of the melting point of steel. “It’s all documented,” people said. Or: “The mass media is mass deception.” Or, as strangers from the Internet shook hands: “Great to meet you. Love the work.”
DR2 sender temalørdag om konspirationsteorier heriblandt 911.

Jeg er meget spændt på hvordan denne udsendelse vil portrættere 911truth bevægelsen. Når jeg kigger på programmet slår det mig som problematisk at 911 bliver lagt i samme kurv som andre konspirationsteorier, der har en klart højere tosse-faktor (fodbold 58), og en klart lavere aktuel-relevans-faktor – 911 er den aktuelle drivkraft bag enorme negative udviklinger såsom aggressive imperialistiske krige og tendenser til politistat i både Europa og USA.
Derudover ligner det et klart ‘kill’ at bringe en film med en mand der skal forklare os forskellen på virkeligheden og konspirationsteorier, og forskellen på politisk aktivitet, og konspirations-forskning… begge falske dichotomier.
I det hele taget ligger fokus for denne tema-aften klart på at betragte eksempler på fænomenet ‘konspirationsteori’ hvorfor jeg tvivler på at der vil blive plads til en egentlig substantiel behandling af de enkelte teoriers indhold.
Hvis man vil gøre 911truth en tjeneste bør man fokusere på at det er en bevægelse snarere end en konspirationsteori, og tilmed en bevægelse, der efterhånden kan mønstre ganske højt profilerede medlemmer eksempelvis: Andreas Von Bülow, Michael Meacher, Charlie Sheen, og mange andre.
Der er flere billeder af udsendelsens tilrettelægger Ole Retsbo sammen med konspirations-über-geek Jim Marrs, som ikke er en central person i 911truth bevægelsen. Marrs har skrevet om 911 men blot som et blandt tusind andre tossede emner.
Der er også et billede af Alex Jones som faktisk er en central person i 911truth bevægelsen og en ret seriøs og energisk person. F.eks. maner han klart til besindighed i det kontroversielle Pentagon/flight77 spørgsmål i modsætning til film som “Loose Change“, og antager jeg sensationalister som Marrs.
Men Alex Jones er en ret skrydende person, og han har også andre tosse-teorier på programmet, hvilket tilsammen giver ham en profil der er let at misrepræsentere og gøre til genstand for ‘strawman attacks‘. Jeg kunne frygte at det er derfor han er blevet udvalgt istedet for den stærkere og mere seriøst profilerede David Ray Griffin… Får vi mon ham at se???
Når solen går ned på Lørdag, vil en ting måske fungere som lakmus-prøve på om denne udsendelse er et stykke fair journalistik eller en ‘hit-piece’:
Viser de video-klip af WTC7’s kollaps?
Videos Show Building 7’s Vertical Collapse
Men måske vigtigst af alt, og sværest for mainstream TV-mediet: Tør de fortælle seerne at man selv bliver nødt til at gå på internettet og orientere sig om 911 spørgsmålet, og tør de oplyse de vigtige adresser såsom 911truth.org og st911.org?
DR Presse
Samfund, debat og forbrug
DR2 10.06.06 / 20.00DR2 Tema: Konspirationernes tid
Engang var konspirationsteorier kun noget for nørder og ekstremister. I dag er de hverdagskost. Tag med DR2 Tema på rejse ind i konspirationernes hemmelighedsfulde verden. (more…)
Debunking 911 Conpiracy Theories and Controlled Demolition – WTC 7
Conspiracy theorist say World Trade Center 7 is the best proof for controlled demolition because it wasn’t hit by Airliners and only had a few fires. It also had a confession from the building owner who said he “Pulled” it. But this is deceptive because while building 7 wasn’t hit by an airliner it was hit by the large perimeter columns of the Tower collapse. It was 400 ft away but the towers were more than 1300 ft tall. As the tower peeled open it easily tilted over to reach building 7. Below is evidence conspiracy theorist are wrong.
Here’s a critical examination of ” Loose change v2″.
Is it whitewash or moderation?
The web is full of sites covering various conspiracy theories. Many seem well-researched, and appear to have plenty of detailed documentation to prove their claims. But are they really true?
Discussion at Loose Change Forum
Following the recent release of new (insignificant) Pentagon videos CNN has managed to Find somebody from the 911truth movement to comment on the case.
And they coincidentally came up with Dave Von Kleist. A dubious character that pushes such ludicrous theories that he is by many in the movement considered to be a disinfo psy-op agent.
The TV host of the CNN headline show is very mocking in style, and clearly does not seek a serious conversation. Dave Von Kleist makes a strong impression, and manages to stay his course in spite of Glenn’s attempts to thwart him.
So what is the problem here?
The problem is that Dave Von Kleist agrees to participate in this show, without mentioning that there is a larger movement out there, that carries other far more potent issues than flight 77.
So in effect he helps build the impression that is CNN’s overall goal: That the 911truth movement is not a movement, but just a conspiracy theory and that that theory is only hinged on the Pentagon/flight77 case.
We see the same strategies used here as in the Jamie Mcintyre interview, namely
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Now we begin to see the official spin on the newly released pentagon tapes.
This interview with Jamie Mcintyre shows exactly how the pentagon ‘case’ is being used to discredit 911 skepticism as a whole.
It is no coincidence that ‘they’ allow public attention around the pentagon case while censuring the really explosive stuff like NORAD stand-down and WTC demolitions.
Jamie-McIntyre-CNN-5-21-2006.wmv
What they (CNN) are doing here is that they claim that the goal of releasing these tapes is to “put to rest these conspiracy theories, that no plane ever hit the Pentagon”.
But in this interview CNN never mentions that there are other far more potent branches of 911truth scepticism, even though they show very brief clips from some of the movies where Jamie appears – taken out of context – and some of these movies are bound to also be treating at least some of these other branches of 911truth.
So by not mentioning these other issues, CNN effectively boils all 911 scepticism down to the issue of whether Flight 77 hit the Pentagon or not.
Jamie referes to the mass of info he has gotten about flight 77 theories, and says that some of them are very convincing and scholarly in appearance, BUT they’re still wrong because he was there and saw the debris from a jetliner.
So they manage to handle the threat of the 911 movement becoming more scholarly in appearance and thereby more credible to a broader audience, by using this Pentagon-case as an instrument to show that even though your argument seems very scientific it may still be wrong.
Which by the way is a valid argument, and fair to use against flight 77 scepticism, but here it is unfairly used to degrade any 911 scepticism.
So the movement should drop flight 77, and turn attention to the stronger issues.
Jamie also manages to show color by to other comments:
Argument number 2 is a classic spin of what David Ray Griffin calls “The sacred myth”, and we all know it is sacrilege to debate the sacred myth.
If this interview manages to prove anything it is the fact that CNN is still wholly defenders of the official myth and they will still only provide info on 911, that is obviously engineered to give a biased and distorted view of the issue.
Here are links to two sites about the clean-up operation at Staten Island.
The usual ‘openness’:
Why Did the World Trade Center Collapse? Science, Engineering, and Speculation
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Thomas W. Eagar and Christopher Musso
Why Did the World Trade Center Collapse? Science, Engineering, and Speculation by Thomas Eagar and Christopher Musso
News & Update
There have been numerous reports detailing the cause of the World Trade Center Tower collapse on September 11, 2001. Most have provided qualitative explanations; however, simple quantitative analyses show that some common conclusions are incorrect; for example, the steel could not melt in these flames and there was more structural damage than merely softening of the steel at elevated temperatures. Some guidelines for improvements in future structures are presented.
This is an old (Dec. 2001) attempt at giving a technical explanation for the collapse, but strictly within the realm of official territory, ie: Fire as the cause.
I found this site through another alternative-explanation site:
Open Letter to Thomas Eagar on Molten Metal at WTC *PIC*
This site is quite ‘nutcase’ in style with mormon cites and all, but it shows some interesting pictures, and claim that they show evidence of molten steel on a vertical column:

I haven’t heard of these pictures or claims anywhere else. Maybe the claims are bogus – who knows?
The nexct picture shows the molten iron flowing from the building just prior to collapse:
MP Michael Meacher’s crackpot conspiracy theories
I’m including this in order to represent ‘the other side’.
The headline sets the tone for the rest of the article.
BBC News | AMERICAS | How the World Trade Center fell
This one is from two days after 911, and it is really funny in the assertive way it peddles the – then – official explanation of the collapses.
Served straight from the deepfreeze… brrrrrrr…
Welcome to the Project for the New American Century (PNAC)
The Project for the New American Century is a non-profit educational organization dedicated to a few fundamental propositions: that American leadership is good both for America and for the world; and that such leadership requires military strength, diplomatic energy and commitment to moral principle.
Their most famous product is:
REBUILDING AMERICA’S DEFENSES RebuildingAmericasDefenses.pdf
With the now famous quote, where they declare their wish for a new Pearl Harbor e.g; WTC 911.
Further, the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event – like a new Pearl Harbor.
Link to A critical site about PNAC
ABOUT THE PROJECT FOR THE
NEW AMERICAN CENTURY: (more…)
Archives – World Trade Center – News and Events
WTC Investigation Archives
Where you can among other things find Collapse of WTC 7 (.pdf)
September 11 Conspiracy Theories – US Department of State
Official Whitewash center.
The funny thing is that it mostly refers to “9/11: Debunking the Myths” in Popular Mechanics magazine.
I just put this hilarious site in here, because it’s funny and an example of what goes on in the other camp. There’s a bit of adolescent WW2-style sentimental military pictures, just to set the tone.
A very modest site, but it has essential links, and links to Official versions of events:
America Under Attack: Anatomy of a collapse
Naive ‘animated’ illustration of the collapses. Supports Official story.